Alexandre Laurent Marius Derbes
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: 10 Aug 1813 - Toulon, France Christening: 12 Aug 1813 - Toulon, France Death: 12 Feb 1867 - New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA 25 Burial: 13 Feb 1867 - St Louis Cemetery No 1, New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States Cause of Death: Unknown
Parents
Father: Charles Dominique Derbes Mother: Suzanne Marie Fortunee Pene
Spouses and Children
1. *Clemence Valie Marriage: 30 Apr 1834 - New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA Children: 1. Anais Marie Derbes 2. Rodolphe Joseph Derbes 3. Marie Derbes 4. Joseph Adolphe Derbes 5. Elodie Marie Derbes 6. Marie Odile Derbes 7. James William Joseph Bernard Derbes 8. Joseph Edouard Nelson Derbes 9. Stephen Joseph Derbes
Notes
General:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/maternal/cdderbes.htmResearch:
Notes for Alexandre Laurent Marius Derbes:
- From The "Foreign French", Nineteenth-Century French Immigration into Louisiana, Vol. 1, 1820-1839, by Carl A. Brasseaux: Derbas, age 15, sex M, occupation not given, native of Toulon, France, ship Susan, port/dept Marseilles, arrival Sept. 25, 1827, destination New Orleans. (note: Hypolite Gilly was on the same ship)
- 18 June 1870 N.O. census (7th ward, p. 60): Clemence Derbes 53 keeps house, $800 personal, Mary 18 at home, Edward 14 at school, Steven 12 at school
- Pioneer member of the St. Martin bar.
- A U.S. Consul to Marseilles, France.
- [Louisiana Historical Society Quarterly Vol. #14, #3 pg. 404] - Since I am in the midst of the subject of jokes it would probably be better to finish it. So I am going to tell you about a man who allows himself this thing rather often. It would been slight debauch of the mind in two acts, if I told you here some of the play on words in which Mr. Derbes indulges. I assure you that he does not do things by the halves when he starts anything. It is all the more strange since he is an alderman of the best sort. You don't still trust in the thousand rumors that have run through the world for centuries! People had up to this time stubbornly insisted on badigeoning the alderman with stateliness from head to foot, and clapping him on a horse as one of the police force. Really that was a scarecrow to place in the garden to frighten the pigeons. Thanks to the amusing witticisms of M. Derbes, it is now proved that there is no truth to the whole matter. The alderman can converse, he can laugh, and he can even make puns. He takes care not to compromise himself to the point of crying out: "except for the police there is no safety at all." I don't know whether M. Garbelle, who has had so many good ideas, has had one in respect to M. Derbes. The new statuette would not spoil the curious collection which the witty artist has made for himself. He would add to the society a lovable man and one of fine sense, which is even better. If he has not yet considered the subject which I indicated to him I shall ask him look out the corner of his eye; he will see what a spicy pie can result from his fingers. M. Derbes is one of the most useful alderman of the first municipality. The frequenters of the council chamber will tell you that he scrupulously leaves his jokes at the door. It is a laudable sacrifice that he makes to the public cause. He knows upon what occasion to defend his opinions firmly. He expresses himself correctly in French; he speaks English a trifle better than I speak Chinese. But he is equal to it, nothing stops him. When he does not find the English word he doesn't lose time in deploring the poverty of that language, and I assure you that his opponents know it well. In discussion he carries the same courtesy, the same integrity that distinguishes him in his ordinary relationships. He understands humor and indulges in it with a charm which has often captivated me. As a man of the public he is a good citizen, as a private man he is an agreeable companion.
- Marriage, State of Louisiana Parish of Orleans No. 1723 30 April 1834. Contract of marriage between Monsieur Alexandre Derbes and Mademoiselle Clemence Vallie'. The year one thousand eight hundred and thirty four, the 30th of April before (parvenent is a legal term and means in the presence of a notary) Louis Feraud, Notary Public in and for the Parish and the City of New Orleans and in the presence of the witnesses expressly named, and subscribed to, below. Were present Mr. Alexandre Derbes, dwelling in this city, age 20 years and ten months, born at Toulon, France, legitimate son of Mr. Charles Dominique Derbes and of Madame Suzanne Penne both living and dwelling together in Toulon---. The said Alexandre Derbes in the presence of Mr. Louis Exnicios, the curator ad hoc, named by the Court of Proofs in this city, this day, the 30th of April on the one hand and Dlle Clemence Valie' acting to those present in the presence and consent of her mother, above named and on the other hand. The which said, Monsieur Alexandre Derbes and Dlle Clemence Valie' have promised and by the present promise solemnly to unite themselves in legitimate marriage according to the laws of the said State and the rites of the Roman Catholic Church, conformably to the religion which they profess at the first request to both and in contemplation of the said future marriage have agreed to the following matrimonial conventions: The future spouse stipulate expressly that there will be separation of property between them, excluding from the community by express clauses. The possessions of the future bride consists of a trousseau and furniture specifically estimated to be 600 piastres (old word for dollar) which she has given as a dowry, and in virtue of these presents, the celebration of the future marriage must be considered valid and must be so considered on each part as definitive. The future spouse states by her procurer the funds to be irrevocable to the future spouse, but giving him the most ample powers of managing and administrating in his quality the future goods and businesses of the future wife in whatever these may consist in their marriage. The goods present, and to come in the future are and remain to each respectively professed and paraphernal, to be submitted to the dispositions of the laws of this state relative to contracts of marriage with clause of separation of goods. This act, made and passed in New Orleans, in the said city, month and year as above in the presence of MM Edward Briggs and Robert Preaus,--- Witnesses required and living in this city who have signed with the said Notary, after the instrument having been read. Translated from the French.
Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) December 8, 1991
Section: LIVING Page: D22 PICTURE FROM THE PAST
Author: John Burke
Alexandre Derbes, who was born in Toulon, came to the United States in 1827, and was named U.S. consul in Marseilles by President Franklin Pierce in 1858. "It was in Marseilles that my grandmother, Elodie Derbes (Alexandre's daughter), was born," Romagosa said. (Monsignor Elimo L. Romagosa.)
"Alexandre was a Southerner at heart and would not serve under Lincoln. He addressed a letter to the president in 1861, the year of Lincoln's inauguration, asking to be relieved of his official duties, giving no other reason than his desire to return home. Prior to his death in 1867, he served as a municipal judge."
Recorded in Orleans Parish Death Index Reel 1
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/deaths/index/nodid.txt
Derbes, Alexandre at age 54 yrs - White 02/12/1867 Volume 35 Page 730
Name: A. L. M. DerbesMedical:
Year: 1836-1840
Place: Louisiana
Source Publication Code: 4981.45
Primary Immigrant: Derbes, A. L. M.
Annotation: Date and place of naturalization. Extracted from microfilm at the New Orleans Public Library. Volume and page number references to original records are also provided.
Source Bibliography: McELROY, VIRGINIA VANDERHEYDEN. "Second District Court Register of Naturalizations, Oaths of Applicants and Witnesses, October 15, 1874-December 21, 1875." In L'Heritage (St. Bernard Genealogical Society, Chalmette, LA), vol. 13:51 (July 1990), pp. 208-213 (Vols. 1-4: A-Z) (NO VOL. 5); vol. 13:52 (October 1990), pp. 295-298 (Vol. 6: A-Z, Vol. 7: A-G); vol. 14:53 (January 1991), pp. 29-31 (Vol. 7: G-S); vol. 14:54 (April 1991), pp. 130-134 (Vol. 7: S-Z; Vol. 8: A-Z).
Page: 212
Declares that Alexandre L Derbes, a native of Toulon (Department du Fluv) France, aged fifty four years, died on the twelfth instant (12th February 1867) at nine o'clock PM at No 118 on St Anne Street a Ms. Gilly Domicile.Marriage Notes (Clemence Valie)
- Marriage, State of Louisiana Parish of Orleans No. 1723 30 April 1834. Contract of marriage between Monsieur Alexandre Derbes and Mademoiselle Clemence Vallie'. The year one thousand eight hundred and thirty four, the 30th of April before (parvenent is a legal term and means in the presence of a notary) Louis Feraud, Notary Public in and for the Parish and the City of New Orleans and in the presence of the witnesses expressly named, and subscribed to, below. Were present Mr. Alexandre Derbes, dwelling in this city, age 20 years and ten months, born at Toulon, France, legitimate son of Mr. Charles Dominique Derbes and of Madame Suzanne Penne both living and dwelling together in Toulon---. The said Alexandre Derbes in the presence of Mr. Louis Exnicios, the curator ad hoc, named by the Court of Proofs in this city, this day, the 30th of April on the one hand and Dlle Clemence Valie' acting to those present in the presence and consent of her mother, above named and on the other hand. The which said, Monsieur Alexandre Derbes and Dlle Clemence Valie' have promised and by the present promise solemnly to unite themselves in legitimate marriage according to the laws of the said State and the rites of the Roman Catholic Church, conformably to the religion which they profess at the first request to both and in contemplation of the said future marriage have agreed to the following matrimonial conventions: The future spouse stipulate expressly that there will be separation of property between them, excluding from the community by express clauses. The possessions of the future bride consists of a trousseau and furniture specifically estimated to be 600 piastres (old word for dollar) which she has given as a dowry, and in virtue of these presents, the celebration of the future marriage must be considered valid and must be so considered on each part as definitive. The future spouse states by her procurer the funds to be irrevocable to the future spouse, but giving him the most ample powers of managing and administrating in his quality the future goods and businesses of the future wife in whatever these may consist in their marriage. The goods present, and to come in the future are and remain to each respectively professed and paraphernal, to be submitted to the dispositions of the laws of this state relative to contracts of marriage with clause of separation of goods. This act, made and passed in New Orleans, in the said city, month and year as above in the presence of MM Edward Briggs and Robert Preaus,--- Witnesses required and living in this city who have signed with the said Notary, after the instrument having been read. Translated from the French.
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