John Henry Silbernagel
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: 25 Sep 1891 - New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Christening:
Death: 11 Jul 1952 - New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Burial: 13 Jul 1952 - Greenwood Cemetery, New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Cause of Death: Reported to be a Heart Attack
Find A Grave ID: 90029116
Parents
Father: Andrew Silbernagel
Mother: Carolina Marguerite Geissler
Spouses and Children
1. *Helen Eulalia Hayes
Marriage: 15 Aug 1912 - New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Children:
1. Andrew Frederick Silbernagel
2. Helena Augusta Silbernagel
3. John Charles Silbernagel
4. William Albert Silbernagel Sr. {FGID: 90029120}
5. Evelyn Doris Silbernagel {FGID: 89980601}
6. Thomas Louis Silbernagel
Notes
General:
Per Orleans Birth Index:Research:
Silbernagel, John Henry M W 09/26/1891 Vol 92 Page 756
Father Andrew
Mother Caroline Giessler
Per Birth Certificate:
Be it Remembered, That on this day towit, the Thirteenth of October in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Ninety one and the One Hundred and Sixtenth of the independence of the United States of America, before me, S. R. Olliphant, M. D., President Board of Health and Ex-Officio Recorder of Births, Deaths and Marriages, in and for the Parish and City of New Orleans, personally appeared Andrew Silbernagel, native of this city, residing at Corner Clouet & Morales Sts who hereby declares, that on the twenty sixth day of September of the present year (26 Sept 1891) at his residence was born a male child, named John Henry Silbernagel (White) Lawful issue of deponent a native of this city, aged 22 years, occupation Laborer and Caroline Giessler a native of this city , aged 22 years,
Thus done at New Orleans, in the presence of the aforesaid A. Silbernagel as also in that of Messrs P H Lanauge A A Richard both of this City witnesses, by me requested so to be, who have hereto set their hands together with me, after due reading hereof, the day, month and year above written.
[followed by signatures]
Lutheran. Worked most of his life as a carman for Southern Railroad. His hobbies were fishing/listening to radio baseball games. Possibly played in a semi-pro baseball league. Everyone remembers the incredible and unusual kites he made, and sold to neighborhood kids for a penny if they had one. [Bill Silbernagel (b 6/9/1951) notes - one of the kites he left me after his death was at least 5 feet tall. Despite heavy cord used in first flight, it broke off. I found it later, but lost it on its second flight. The other kites were rectangular shapes with wooden frames and colorful paper panels]
Per 1900 U S Census:
Living in a rental duplex at 1128-30 Clouet St in New Orleans, LA is:
1128 - William Ashman (Asenmacher) and his wife Carolina, and their daughter Augusta, and their two step children from Carolina's first marriage, John and Andranina Silbernagel. William, born April 1875, is a 25 year old white male trunk maker. Carolina, born October 1870 is a 29 year old white female, and they have been married 3 years.
Andranina was born December 1892 and is 7 years old. John was born September 1891, is 8 years old. Augusta was born November 1898 and is one year old.
The other side of the duplex, 1130, has Peter Schultz and his wife Barbara (Silbernagel) and her brother John Silbernagel and sister Margaret Silbernagel. Peter, born February 1866, is 34 years old. Barbara was born October 1873 and is 26. They have been married 9 years and have no children. John, born May 1881, is 19 and is a grocery clerk. Margaret was born February 1888, is 12 years old and at school. All in the house speak English and can read and write.
Per 1910 U S Census:
Head of household at 1233 Piety Street in the 9th ward of New Orleans is Caroline Ahsenmacher, a 41 year old white female, 12 years in her second marriage, mother of 4 children, three living. She was born in Louisiana, her parents in Germany. She spoke English, had no job, could read and write, and lived in a rented house
Living with her is son John Silbernagel, 19 year old single white male, born in Louisiana as are his parents, speaks English and is a car knocker (?) for the railroad, a job he has held for 2 years. He can read and write, and is not attending school.
Possible WWI draft listing:
Draft # 2017 Silbernagel, John H. Home address 1226 Louisa, New Orleans LA Division 8 Physical F
Card is filed out Silbernagle, but signature is Silbernagel. Card has birth date Sept. 26, 1892, vs actual Sept. 25, 1891.
Natural born citizen, born in New Orleans, LA. Employed as a car repairman by N. O. & N. E. R. A. located at Press andSt Claude. John is white, married, and is seeking exemption due to supporting a wife and two children under 12. John is medium height, slim, brown eyes and dark hair, no distinguising marks.
Per 1920 US Census, 1/8/1920, 1232 Louisa St, Ward 9, New Orleans, LA
Renting the home is 28 year old white male John Silbernagel. Employed as a car repairman for the railroad, he was born in Louisiana as were his parents. His 22 year old wife, Helen, was born in Indiana, as were her parents. They have three children, 6 year old son Andrew, 5 year old daughter Helen, and 2 years and 7 months old John. Andrew attends school. All the kids were born in Louisiana.
Per New Orleans States 9/15/1920
FIRE CAUSES PANIC IN CAR; ONE HURT
Sailor Fractures Skull Leaping From Window; Eight Others Hurt
A flash of fire from the controller box in a Carondelet car shortly before 11 o'clock Tuesday night at Mandeville and Chartres streets caused a panic among the passengers, resulting in one being probably fatally injured.
Vincent Baeer, 19, sailor on the steamship Truxillo, received a fracture of the skull when he jumped from the window and landed on his head. He was taken to the Charity Hospital unconcious.
EIGHT OTHERS LEAP
Eight other passengers leaped through windows and were slightly injured. They are:
Fred Selhofer, 27, of 1227 Louisa, bruised on right leg.
Camille Daville, 20, of 2116 Chartres, bruise of right arm.
John Silbernagle, 28, of 1223 Louisa, bruise of left hip.
Mont McAdoo, 34, of 2827 Dauphine street, bruise of right hand and left leg.
Arthur Dunn, 24, of 2511 Decatur, bruise of right hand.
H. F. Heckell, 45, of 1123 Congress, bruise of left arm.
Miss Tilly Baker, 19, of 2473 Royal, bruise of left hip.
The flame swept through the car, damaging the interior to the extent of $300. Motorman Robert McIntyre, and conductor Ed. Simineaux escaped uninjured. the flame was extinguished by Fire Company No. 24.
Per 1930 US Census T626 Roll 806 Page 258: 3140 N. Villery Street, New Orleans, LA
Head of household is John H. Silbernagel, a 39 year old white male who rents the house for $20/month. He married at age 21 (about 1912), and is employed as a car repairman for the steam railroad (His occupation code 7725 is listed generally as Car & railroad shops; Car wheel works; Railroad repair shop; Steam or street railroad cars). He is not a veteran. He was born in La, as were his parents. His wife is 40 year old Helen, who was 22 when they married. She and her parents were born in Indiana. Living with them are children -
Andrew F. 17 Messenger for steam railroad (occupation code 7077 means generally Messenger, errand, and office boys and girls for steam railroad)
Other children are Helen A. 15, John C. 12, William A. 10, Evelyn 7, Thomas L. 4.
Per 1940 US Census 4/17/1940 311 South Cortez St, 3rd Ward, New Orleans, Orleans, LA
John Silbernagel, who answered the census questions, is the 48 year old white male head of household, who rents his home for $30 a month. He was born in Louisiana, and lived in the same city in 1935. He is a coach inspector for the railroad. John, educated through 6th grade, worked 52 weeks in 1939 and earned $2,100. His wife, 50 year old Ella Silbernagel, was born in Indiana, and finished 2 years of high school. They have 4 children, all born in Louisiana: 23 year old John Silbernagel, single, 1 year of college, an order clerk for a cotton goods manufacturer, earned $450 for 32 weeks work in 1939; 20 year old William Silbernagel, single, 7th grade, route salesman for a dry cleaner, earned $480 for 36 weeks work in 1939; Evelyn Silbernagel, 17 years old, 7th grade, attends school; Thomas Silbernagel, 14 years old, 5th grade, attends school.
Per 1950 US Census 4/14/1950 311 S Cortez, New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
John H. Silbernagel is the 59 year old white male head of household, born in Louisiana, works as an inspector for the railroad, working 40 hours the last week. His wife, 60 year old Helena H. Silbernagel, was born in Indiana, keeps house. Thomas L. Silbernagel is their 24 year old son, single, born in Louisiana, works as an apprentice car repairer for the railroad, working 40 hours last week. Also living with John is his widowed daughter, 27 year old Evelyn D. Blanchard, and 2 grandchildren, 4 year old Roy J. Blanchard and 1 year old Patricia J. Blanchard, all born in Louisiana. Evelyn keeps house.
Per Obituary Times-Picayune
SILBERNAGEL -- Of 5517 Freret street, on Friday, July 11, 1952 at 9:52 o'clock a. m., JOHN HENRY SILBERNAGEL, beloved husband of Helen Hayes; father of Andrew F., John C., William A., Thomas L. Silbernagel, Mrs. R. L. Guerrin, Mrs. L. M. Blanchard; brother of Mrs. N. Caruso, Mrs. Joseph S. Duhy; survived by 9 grandchildren; aged 60 years; a native of New Orleans.
Relatives and friends of the family, and employees of the Southern Railway System, officers and members of B. R. C. A. Lodge No. 154, are invited to attend the funeral, which will take place Sunday, July 13, 1952, at 3:30 o'clock p. m., from the auxiliary home of Jacob Schoen and Son, 3827 Canal street, at North Scott street. Religious services at First English Lutheran church. Interment in Greenwood cemetery.
Lawrenceburg, Ind., and Harrison, Ohio, papers please copy.
Per Findagrave.com John Henry Silbernagel
Birth: Sep. 25, 1891 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, USA
Death: Jul. 11, 1952 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, USA
Family links:
Spouse:
Helen Eulalia Hayes Silbernagel (1887 - 1964)
Children:
Helena Silbernagel Guerin (1915 - 1998)*
*Calculated relationship
Note: Age 60, Name on Plot Silbernagel, Date of Burial 7/13/1952, Ref: Cemetery Records
Burial: Greenwood Cemetery New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, USA, Plot: 52 Locust Orange Rose
Created by: Graves Record added: May 12, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 90029116
Per Louisiana, U.S., Statewide Death Index, 1819-1964
Name:John Henry Silbernagel
Age:60 Birth Year: abt 1892
Death Date:11 Jul 1952
Death Place:Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Per Social Security Death Claims Index:
Name: John Henry Silbernagel
Gender: Male Race: White
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1891 Birth Place: New Orleans, Louisiana
Father: Andrew Silbernagel
Mother: Carolina Geissler
Type of Claim:Original SSN.
Notes: Jan 1937: Name listed as JOHN HENRY SILBERNAGEL
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/military/wwd7-10.txt lists per Times Picayune the WWI draftees for the period 7/28/1917 to 9/8/1917 from four wards of Orleans. Not sure if this is the same John H Silbernagel, but the dates seem to fit with his age approaching 17. Check address with Linda and JohnMarriage Notes (Helen Eulalia Hayes)
Per grandson John Silbernagel regarding draft status for WWI "Billy - This doesn't make too much sense. That has to be my Grampaw based on the street address. But here's the rub; in 1907 the federal government took over the railroads. Along about 1910-13 they implanted the U.S. Army to physically run the railroads. I remember my father talking about how he hated the Army uniform to the extent he would not allow his sons to join the Boy Scouts. I am the only one in this line of Silbernagels to wear an Army uniform. Then I see where Grampaw ran down and registered so fast he got a draft card number 17. Something is not right. Somebody has been pulling somebody's leg. Next. Who is Phillip Silbernagel from down on Rampart St.? "
Per grandson John Silbernagel "Here's a little anecdote for you to write down. Grampaw played baseball for the Hattiesburg Tigers. I believe he was a catcher. The old Terminal Superintendent at Meridian, MS knew him then and he said he was a "rounder" whatever that is. My old boss, the vice president, John Tipton also knew Grampaw and asked if I played baseball like my grandfather. He commented he was a "helluva" player."
Per grandson John Silbernagel "Bill - That "F" means Grampaw was an undocumented alien. I didn't know he was Mexican. By the way, whenever you get a chance, please send me a couple of your business cards. In about a year, my son William will be taking his CPA exam and I want to show him what it looks like to be successful. jas"
Research this info- Had two sisters, Nan Caruso and Mrs Joseph S. Duhy
From: John Silbernagel >To: Linda Jenkins >Cc: Dianne Daniel >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:52 PM >Subject: Re: Grandma and Grandpa > > >Linda > >Grammaw had a stroke and was in a coma for a long time. I understand she got pneumonia and passed. That was what I was told, and I was out of the loop at the time. > >As to Grampaw, he had been having heart attacks for some time. The previous weekend he and Grammaw were at out house. Grampaw was upset about an argument aunts Evelyn and Helen were having. I was in the back yard when Mother received the call. They found Grampaw at the Union Passenger Terminal, in the railroad washroom. It was either Uncle Bill or Uncle Tommy that "gave him a shot but it didn't do any good". A shot of what, I have no idea. It was probably medicinal nitro glycerin. Again, an 11 year old kid isn't given credit enough to understand, so what I wrote is what I understood.
Per New Orleans marriage index:
24 year old Helen E. Hayes married 22 year old John Henry Silbernagel on 8/15/1912.
Volume 34, page 609.
Per "Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJ4-TTRH : 15 October 2015), John Henry Silbernagel and Helen E Hayes, 15 Aug 1912; citing Orleans, Louisiana, United States, various parish courthouses, Louisiana; FHL microfilm 909,947.
Name: John Henry Silbernagel
Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 Aug 1912 Event Place: Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Year (Estimated): 1890
Father's Name: Andr (Andrew) Silbernagel
Mother's Name: Mary Geissler
Spouse's Name: Helen E Hayes
Spouse's Gender: Female Spouse's Age: 24 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1886
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Hayes
Spouse's Mother's Name: Nan Buttington
Reference ID: 609 GS Film Number: 000909947
Digital Folder Number:004769151 Image Number: 00335